Redzone 101 3.71K subscribers Subscribe 315 Share 21K views 2 years ago Going old school for self-defense will the Stoeger Double. Similar to the Stoeger Double Defense model, the Charles Daly 204XT is an over/under tactical break-action shotgun with 20-inch barrels, rails for optics and accessories, extended choke tubes and a single selective trigger with a tang mounted safety control switch. I have an old style exposed hammer coach gun. A staple of the Old American West, Impact Guns carries a wide variety of side-by-side, double barrel, shotgun designs. Another company that produces some great short double guns is Stoeger. Stock Dimensions: 14 3/8LOP x c, H. Nock, London. CG1878-20. Please be respectful of others. A very tight and field ready Francotte with great dimensions. Which is good if your worried about penetrating through a wall and reduced recoil on user. Churchill "Utility" Grade XXV with famous Churchill rib and weighs in at 6 lbs. They are my edc because I chose them to be. but carries 29" Krupp barrels. grew up with a 16 gauge single break action. Something went wrong. Some years ago I bought a Spartan, 20 inch coach gun. The other option for a hammerless gun would be an elastic shell holder on the buttstock, chambers empty, and practice quickly loading. My favorite SxS shotguns are simple, efficient in design, field useable, and ultimately a working man's shotgun. This article was originally published in the Tactical Life Aug/Sept 2021 issue. Worked a homicide as a young police officer where a burglar was shot in the abdomen at close range with bird shot. The gun didnt do great on clays, but I can attribute that almost entirely to the shooter, not the gun. I like everything about them except for the safe which is located to the right and left of the trigger guard. Barrel length, regardless . Modern Century Arms double-barrel coach guns also feature a handy tang-mounted safety. Thus making their own coach guns. One of my many shotguns is a Taurus Circuit Judge .410. It is tight on face and has great stock dimensions and chokes and 2 3/4" proofed chambers. The short-barreled double-barrel shotgun with hammers is often called a coach gun or side-by-side shotgun. All Rights Reserved. This little gun, perhaps with a little tuning of the chokes, would make an ideal upland bird gun. 1790. Size of shot pattern for birdshot to buck shot no more than a quater under 15; so even #7 1/2 is effective man killer at in home defensive range. These simple, rugged and workmanlike shotguns are well suited to many traditional shotgun chores. Back up is a High Standard.22 Derringer. Many years ago (late 1960s) a family friend was hunting rabbits in South Maine one sunny February day. It now sits ready next to my bed. Sure, there are double barrel but no one can use them. Or if you want the naked hammers and full-length barrels, then the CZ Hammer Classic is sure to fit the bill with its huge, period-correct 30-inch barrels. Would you put a green/inexperienced officer/ troop untrained/unfamiliar with a carbine up against a well experienced troop with a shotgun in real life??? $14.95. By the time messengers for Wells Fargo & Co. were running the route from Tipton, Missouri, to San Francisco in 1858 laden with passengers and gold, that fact hadnt changed much from the Robin Hood days. "Double Barrel Flintlock Coach Gun by Wilson. Great wall thickness and American style stock dimensions tell me along with this condition that this gun will not last long! STOEGER 12-Gauge Coach Gun. The load may be changed quickly if the problem is a dangerous animal such as a rattlesnake just outside the door or a predator such as a coyote farther away. Was striker fired, not a hammer gun, made, according to the stamp on the breech hinge, when opened, in 1898 for a Smiths Hardware Store, Little Rock, Arkansas. I like this shotgun. W. W. Greener boxlock ejector with 2 3/4" original Nitro proofs. It is extremely compact and possesses two 7-round magazines. Around the top tang is nicely done silver wire inlay. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. Cond. Double-Barrel for Defense For personal defense, the double-barrel handles quickly and points well. He, A clean working heavy barrel black powder muzzle loader percussion 28ga fowler with a 38" half round/octagonal barrel with a choke of about IC and a bore clean half way up and then closer to the, " Super Rare" Antique Coach Gun C. 1830's to 1840's 45 Cal. This gun , built in the early 1900's, is of very high quality and craftsmanship. Locks with border engraving and signed Manhattan Arms Co. Checkered walnut fore-end and pistolgrip stock with . Many companies would offer their double-barrel models from the factory with 12- to 24-inch barrels. Could the barrels be shorter and still be NFA legal? I might want/prefer an M-203 or a SAW or even an M-60 or MA-DEUCE..or even an F-15E, or an A-10 or AC-130 and DANGER CLOSE but do not have them available..there is no doubt of their superiority or capability in taking out and killing Bad Guy(s). Stock Dimensions: 14 3/8"LOP x " c .Click for more info Seller: Lewis Drake & Associates Area Code: 270 $13,500.00 Nock, London. This Scottish gun from Edinburgh while appearing worn on the outside is actually a fairly stout and strong gun. & Co. Bowlby 41 cal. I took it to the range with a couple of men from my church. Thomas Wild 12g. This JIC unit is available anytime I leave my residence. Get the latest information about new products, special deals, news, top-rated items, promotions and more! What there is extremely fine and could easily be polished out if desired. And I even used #4 in my .410 with excellent results. 3 oz. Used. Thus having access to a larger capacity of rounds was one of my first choices. Great barrels on this classic Birmingham boxlock. Maker unknown. While the company offers several models with double triggers, there are none with exposed hammers. I always tell them that I dont have a set go to gun because I have guns stashed all over my home. Here we present an antique Nicolas Noel Boutet Double Barrel Side by Si, This gun appears to be about 1/2 scale. "Coach" Shotgun: A welcome passenger on long, lonely stagecoach rides. This is a wonderful little 20g. Wood is nicely checkered and has the correct buttplate. Back in the mid-term elections of 1994, few if any news outlets acknowledged the defeat of the liberal elements in Congress as being the result of the backlash against the so-called Assault Weapons Ban. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Wells Fargo Belgium Double Barrel 12 GA. Wood is excellent. The double-barrel shotgun is an excellent all-around shotgun for defense use and ideal for many of us. Learned to fire it with some degree of accuracy by the time I was tall enough to reach the triggers. @ Philip If a perp is running away there is no lawful reason to fire on him. Wood and metal. This is a neat little bead-sighted shotgun that handles well. With the open-choke barrels of the coach gun, 15 yards is the limit for retaining a good pattern for best effect, which isnt different from the average riot gun. The Bristol and . The coach gun was perhaps the original defensive gun for travelers in the United States. View cart for details. W.H. Fast & Free shipping on many items! Another advantage is that with two loads, you can stage the load. 1 bid. If you know me at all you know my favorite gauge for the field is 16g. Designed and Developed by DataWeb Programming | Copyright 2023. Over the following years, coach guns would be both bought and made by people in all walks of life. F.A.I.R. Among a few high-tech variants in 20-gauge slugs, this loading offers formidable effect at ranges longer than 25 yards. When I took it to the range the first time, I found myself wishing I could have pushed through batwing doors with this little time machine of a shotgun. William Evans marketed this model as their "Best Quality" boxlock as they feature top notch engraving, wood, fit and finish and our gun is not an exception. Try it with the 410 in a judge and it will scare you how bad an idea this is. At 10 feet (I didnt pattern at 15), my coach gun (CAI, 12 gauge 20 bbl) has a spread of right about 3+ inches. the side-by-side double-barreled shotgun was a mainstay to settlers, miners, ranchers, and just about anyone who needed a weapon. Obviously well made with exceptional engraving and wood. This ad features the pictured Antique Parker Exposed Hammers Shotgun with Damascus Barrels. If you're looking for something special, these rare guns can be customizable in every way. Web Hosting and Design by InMotion Hosting, Be the first to review Cimarron 1878 Coach Side By Side 12 GA Shotgun 3Chamber Walnut Stock, Adaptive Tactical Venom Shotgun Conversion Kits, Short Barrel Rifles (SBR) and Short Barrel Shotguns (SBS). Featuring chokes that will bring success in the uplands as well as the modern stock dimensions. My 500 with 20 bbl patterns the same. It is tight and on face and field ready. Cimarrons Cowboy Action Shooting version of the famous Colt 1878 Shotgun with real working hammers. Cimarron Firearms has a reputation for their excellent reproductions of Old West pistols, rifles and shotguns. Plus, those barrels produced solid patterns at, and a bit beyond, typical self-defense distances. more info 1897 Classic Old West Double Barrel Shotgun Scabbard Handcrafted western style double barrel shotgun scabbard. It may not have a great selection of antique double barrel options, but there are some quite valuable shotguns that you will want to look into. Some of the side-by-side shotgun manufacturers that we carry are: Mossberg , CZ USA, and Stoeger. It is a Wells Fargo double barrel 12 gauge shotgun. Average front room 15. The fact that you still see 870s and mossberg 500s in police cruisers would steer me in that direction. He argued that he wasnt doing nothing !! Lots of condition on this classic Greener FH 35. New Gun Listing Notifications, Click anywhere on the large image below to zoom in, or use the 1800. GI#: 102227277 Antique PARKER BROTHERS Double Barrel SIDE x SIDE HAMMER Shotgun Stub Twist Classic Shotgun Made in 1888! If they still keep coming then something is clearly wrong with their head! They all stated that the 12ga kicked way too much for them and way way too much for their wives. Add to Cart . Yes! I had an incident here with a druggie scouting out my yard and shop and I stepped out in my underwear with a pump and racked a round and suggested he leave immediately. It is out of the way and very easy to operate. The double barrel allows for a simpler (and faster weapon back to target with PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, AND MORE PRACTICE) reload than most any handgun with less practice and will allow with quick follow up shotsshooting from the hip can and should be learned. While the 12 gauge is usually thought of as the standard in protective shotguns, the 20 can do just fine. My gunsmith, Buck Hamlin, over thirty years ago encouraged me to put these chokes in my game gun and assured me there would be more birds in my bag and he was totally right. Your discussions, feedback and comments are welcome here as long as they are relevant and insightful. Markings are "Giuseppe Merli in Brescia". We date this Agnew to 1909. Im a retired police officer and always wanted a coach gun. Manufrance "Ideal" grade "2R" in very nice condition! Or you might get it all. The information provided here does not represent the views of Cheaper Than Dirt! Shotgun was cut down to "coach gun" configuration with 20" barrels . This is one of the most unique side by side shotguns we have ever had in the shop. You use what have you have and what you know. A very nice petite 20g by George Bate, a small but well-respected English gun maker in the center of the Birmingham gun trade on Steel House Lane. performed with 7/8 oz. MOORE CO. BELGIUM" on both locks and "CAST-STEEL BELGIUM" on the barrel rib. A 20 gauge, or even a .410, will work IF you can hit a 6 paper plate at 10 yards, and keep almost every pellet on the plate. While nostalgia has often drawn me to the acquisition of firearms, and the old side-by-side external hammer shotgun has certainly done so (to the tune of having a few in my collection), for real life tactical applications I much prefer the pump shotgun. And the #4 Buck rounds make for a solid, light-kicking self-defense load. Original Flip Up Site, 16 1/2 Barrel, Original Curly Mapel Stock. I really like this grade of Evans boxlocks as they feature extra's like double sears (an extra for safety on both barrels), extra high-grade engraving, and wood. A magnificent 18-bore double-barreled flintlock sporting gun, #862, made in 1806, and so marked inside each lock and on the underside of the barrels at the breeches. Of course, their use wasnt limited to stagecoaches. Exceptionally rare and fine 23-bore O/U double flintlock sporting gun, ca. The spread from the short barrels also made it much easier to hit moving targets from a bouncing coach. Rare DREYSE NEEDLE FIRE Shotgun PRUSSIAN Antique Double Barrel SxS 16 Gauge c1850s Predecessor to the Centerfire System! It is rare to find one in its original makers case. Actually, that says it all as it is a beautiful gem of the quality we would expect from Woodward. No sane person faces down a 68 yr old man in his underwear with a freshly charged pump gun. This is a very nice little English boxlock with very nice barrels and plenty of choke which is good if you want it or can be opened to anything you would like. The right side of the action the wood has been properly reinforced with dowels to strengthen the stock. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. I prefer the #4 buck to 00. (But effective!). They feel so natural in the hands. Frame is, Castiglioni, Brescia. Shotguns At Collectors Firearms, we pride ourselves on our ever evolving inventory of antique shotguns and used shotguns for sale. *Note the 29" steel barrels and the great stock dimensions and chokes for upland game. Side-by-side shotguns are often used in Cowboy Action Shooting competition. This gun was imported by VL&D of NY in probably the 1920's. On the other hand, Winchesters #3 buckshot load holds 20 buckshot pellets. Vintage Double Barrel SXS Shotgun Wooden Forend Lot of 3 Grade 2 Pre-Owned $30.00 libertytreecollectors (21,045) 100% Buy It Now +$14.00 shipping Sponsored Antique T Parker Bro's Shotgun 12 ga Double Barrel England 30" Parts Only $225.00 fredc23 (3,227) 98.6% or Best Offer +$29.99 shipping Sponsored Gun retains traces of the original laminated steel pattern with the balance having turned a plum brown. Just in case. In came the need for coach guns. Add to Wish List . Tight and light just like what many of you are looking for! I know of several people who bought 12ga coach guns and none of them liked them. But if you want one all around gun for home defense a shotgun is my choice. Part octagon barrel that is abou, Ketland & Co. The 41 inch has a brown patina and is marke, 1800s ENGRAVED Antique German Percussion Back Action SxS 16 Gauge Shotgun Mid-1800s Double Barrel Fowling Gun Here we present an antique German Double Barrel Percussion Side by Side Hammer, Fine French flintlock, double-barrel, 20-bore Sporting Gun with British proof marks, ca. A different variant, the double-barrel striker-fired shotgun, was used by New York City cops until at least the 1970s. Sale price! I worked up a light load with #8 shot for her to train with and its in the right barrel. Also, firearms are deadly weapons if you arent mentally and emotionally prepared to kill the intruder, dont bring a gun. If you prefer a hammerless version of this excellent coach gun, CZ makes the Sharp-Tail Coach, which is basically the same shotgun, just without the rabbit ears on the receiver. *Note this grade features a Purdey style hidden third bite. Features an under lever action that when depressed opens the breach, twin back action hammer locks, engraving which covers and extends over the hammers, action and other parts. From 1898, George Bate 20ga between the wars English double with a beautifully long LOP, Russell Hillsdon 20g. What choke? I agree, Les..While bird shot loads would not be my first choice as defensive loads, at close range..AKA in-the-house..such loads can be very effective. Following the success of its initial collaboration with Vertx, Premier Body Armor announces its continued partnership.