What would happen, if, at the start of sacrament meeting on Mothers Day, the bishop announced that there would be two separate meetings. Why shouldn't women be those who teach about the glory of god that is woman? I have to go home right after Sacrament meeting, because the Sisters all bring their flowers with them to the other meetings. I think it turned out great. I personally am skeptical of ever looking to people for ideals. And he completely meant it too. Today the sacrament is an ordinance in which Church members partake of bread and water in remembrance of Jesus Christs atoning sacrifice. The "Sacrament Meeting Program" app provides users a quick, easy way to create their sacrament meeting programs. Do you also not need an idea such as the Savior, your Father in Heaven or your Heavenly Mother? Sacrament Meetings - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints I only mentioned Mothers Day once, and I said how much my mom hated the hypocrisy of Mothers Day, and that we should treat women right every day of the year, not give platitudes one day of the year. Well done! Just pass out the chocolates and let all the women go to a park where buckets of KFC, potato salad and slaw are in abundance and/or veggie pizza and cheesecake. I just read that talk again; and I see nothing wrong with it. The best MD talk was from a woman who gave a list of all the things she wished she had known when she was 18. Well, count me among the lucky ones who are speaking this coming Sunday. 3rd hour had all of the PRI & YW leaders including the YW themselves in RS with homemade lemon cakes from the teacher. I come to church to be fed spiritually, and sappy poems and stories are never ever going to measure up to the meat that scriptural examples can provide. This year in my ward the emphasis was shifted slightly from being a mother to our mothers. Yeah. The only thing I might try if I were in charge would be to put out pink, white, red carnations and safety pins and invite everyone in the ward to wear a carnation to honor their mother pink/red if shes living, white if shes passed away. lesson about prayer. I have seen, heard and experienced much of the imperfections, joys and sorrows in life, and know that reaching out for and holding on to the Iron Rod brings souls closer to the ideals with every step. Mrs. Gui, All the little Guis and their little Guis, the violin, photography, Prokofiev, Mahler, Terry Pratchett, Patrick OBrian, Umberto Eco, sci-fi and fantasy, Brigham Young, playing Bluegrass with real Kentuckians. My oldest, the musical and noisy one, composed parodies of many favorite primary songs about a decade ago when she was under the tyranny of those zealous but misguided young mothers. It was a powerful meeting and very real. Some years it gets a nod, other years the talks are unrelated. I have been avoiding the mother's day sacrament meeting for the last couple of years. It is even worse when women are so enthused with Father's Day that they want to ignore it completely - as in absolutely not mention it. Latter-day Saint pianist Monica Scott has arranged a touching Mother's Day medley in honor of Stephanie Pope, a mother of five who recently passed away . This has been a great reminder to be sensitive to all in the congregation with the Holy Ghost as a guide. The fathers dont seem to feel as guilty about things as the mothers do,,,. I have an aversion to bringing my family's celebration intochurch and causing other women pain. Why was she an ideal? Yea like all of you My Mother sucked too. I actually think its good to celebrate both Mothers and Fathers Days with the caveat to be sensitive to the feelings of those who have difficulty with that celebration. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. We are an outlandishly weird, mixed up bunch of folk.
Really? Have a young child, a teenager, husband and elderly father take you through the different phases of motherhood in their own point of view. Christmas is not a universal holiday and thus we should not celebrate one day a year, We focus on Christ every day and every Sunday so there is no need to celebrate on Christmas. The Mothers Day talks in my singles wards have been quite sensitive to childless women, but still pretty women-on-pedestalsy. LDS Hymn Arrangements. How can a father raise a happy, well-adjusted daughter in todays increasingly toxic world? You wouldnt give a talk in a single adult ward about the joys of scouting. The main message I gathered from reviewing this survey is, keep it simple, dont try tohave specific female messages during the meetings, and then serve a fun refreshment in the third hourjust because. Its hard for those without children, who are likely never to have children, to listen to motherhood talks that don't address their situation. Just to be clear - I meant 'written/given' by women (aka musical number "O My Father" written by Eliza R Snow, conf talk by Reeve/Oscarson/Okazaki). Trust her. I have been called by God to be there and that is where I should be. A cookie in a baggie? President Hinckley directly addresses mothers in this talk, commending them for the wonderful thing they have done by becoming mothers, but offering insights on their greatest challenge: to be able to answer the question How well have my children done? with happiness. Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009. It seems like every time theres a church scandaland especially one that concerns moneypeople start arguing that the scandal-ridden church (or even churches in general) should lose their tax exemptions. Actually, Ive never heard anything about Heavenly Mother beyond, Isnt it so wonderful that we believe in a Heavenly Mother?!. I like the idea of a simple gift for those in attendance. Today the sacrament is an ordinance in which Church members partake of bread and water in remembrance of Jesus Christ's atoning sacrifice. How could I forget? Regular G.A.S. I agree with #15youth speaker, song and chocolate and the rest of the meeting devoted to Christ. People seemed to feel good about it but Mark is right about it being a fraught day. The sacrament provides an opportunity for Church members to ponder and remember with gratitude the life, ministry, and Atonement of the Son of God. The rest of us mortals should stick with real. It would just be nice to complete our idealism with a good dose of reality. I am not sure what other words I can use to convey my meaning when I rely so heavily on tone. Im sorry too for the harshness In my expression in a previous thread regarding your views of sacrament meeting. I was supposed to talk two weeks ago on the purpose of the Sacrament but ended up in surgery instead, and upon returning to church last Sunday was asked to reschedule. Since I believe he (the Father) and my Heavenly Mother are probably equals, Id say we know a lot about her as well! But I realize others prefer plants. One of my favorite talks ever wasnt a Mothers Day talk but was given by a mother talking about mothering (we were on vacation, so didnt know the woman speaking). Dont take us out of Primary to go eat Treats! Thanks. Reading over those messages, it is hard to come up with any form of consensus other than, everyone has a different opinion. Wow! Uchtdorf. Be patient with her imperfections, for she has them. Deep gratitde is owed to our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ for the Atonement which allows us each to recover from any missteps, no matter how far off the path one may stray. She has your best interests at heart. Somehow those who are not mothers are incapable of celebrating motherhood and thus it is painful for them and thus no one should celebrate motherhood as a church. Theyre all very good, and not being critical, but Hallmark w/ scripture would seem to be one way to describe the style of Pres. In Bishopric meeting this year, I quoted your little sister regarding plants. I have seen women leave the meeting in tears, and I know others who have learned, through sad experience, that it is best for them to take a break from church on Mothers Day. There are diabetic men, arent there? Well at least I know what not to talk about. The average of the survey said their bishopric probably spends about $1 per sister for Mothers Day gifts. Im also a High Councilor, who always tries very much not to speak in rose-colored platitudes that, sadly, you associate with High Council speakers. Church meetings Sacrament Meeting Overview To find a ward near you, try the Meetinghouse Locator, which will also provide sacrament meeting times, driving directions, and contact information. I just pray that the spirit can convey the message that seems so exciting in my heart. But I was not a mother, in spite of my tears and pleadings with the Lord. They can eat whatever they want, in fact. This year in our ward we are having a missionary farewell for Mothers Daynot the old kind where the new missionary and all his/her family speak, but the new kind where the new missionary will be given a topic. He also discussed the importance of placing motherhood first in our lives but not allowing the pressures of motherhood to sap us of joy. :( Everyone can just disregard parts that may sound harshor disregard the comment altogether I reckon. It is good to share personal stories, but be aware that your own family might be abit stranger than you think. on Mothers Day and donate it to a womens shelter. We also have free LDS program covers and printable LDS program covers you can print off at home. Special celebrations can and should be held at home within the family. There are a number of other conference talks on the subject (righteous traditions, family traditions, etc.). JUST kidding. Im sort of hoping that the person before me goes too long and I have to wrap up with my testimony. The perfect sacrament meeting talk? For the injured interceding, I have no aversion to motherhood being spoken of in church. Sacrament Meeting - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints They are there, you just have to do a little digging. Teach Me to Walk in the Light - Mother's Day Song Great survey. If youre already perfect, who needs it? Which meeting do you think would be more meaningful to the participants? iPhone. It was the service ofthe sisters that made the talk memorable. Maybe Ill get a pizza and tell the kids to cook it for breakfast when Sunday morning comes. You can still give the women the day off. One thing I would add is that somehow we need to stop telling LDS women that they need to do everything in 6 days and 90% income with smiles on their faces and do it better than their non-LDS peers. Others must be killed or theyll live forever, injuring regular folk. Maybe, eventually, I will heal and that will change. Is it callender time, number of posts, how irritated the host is with the comments! This has been a big concern for me, as there are many women in the ward who are very sensitive to the Perfect Mother talks, and I didnt want to heap on to their burdens. So for over a decade, Ive loved Mothers Day, just because I know it wont end with all of us crying. 18 Powerful LDS Scriptures on Mothers | Read Them All Here when she becomes a God like I know she will she will be an inspriation to all ladys, I must speak the loving word, Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. I remember long ago a young woman spoke on Mother's Day and described her mother as "the mean mother". Although I have the suspicion that he had an ulterior motive of hoping never to be asked to speak again. Daughters of God Pres Hinckley and apparently Mark has it right. However, like you, I thought Fathers Day was a done and done. Did they not have mothers? I recommend it highly: This! (http://dandelionmama.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/this-this-is-what-i-believe/). Someone explain this. We got the story about women blessing their cows a couple of years ago. It is Mother's Day and yet the day is supposed to about everything about women EXCEPT being a mother. Avoid speaking of angel mothers. Rockpond, is this separate from a Primary Program? Although I like the idea of them as well! Excellent suggestions, Mark. Because disciples can be wayward in their faith we should not celebrate Christmas because it causes too much pain in those who remain more faithful. He emphasized there is no one perfect way to be a mother and that every situation is different. She only did half the things a good mother would have done. Not an official website of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 34 Ideas for LDS Sacrament Meeting Talks When People Don't Apologize: Forgiving and finding reconciliation with God Would borrow from Forgiveness + Tribulation, a talk I gave fall 2019. With a purpose firm and willing, 2. It falls short when it is not delivered with love, patience, acceptance, humility, an understanding of the limitations of REALITY, and the the Gift of the Holy Ghost. But I certainly enjoyed the beauty of the whole situation and was very glad to see so many young peole in the Church on Sunday. I've done this in past years but always enjoy the new ideas from the participants here As I plan our Mother's Day Sacrament Meeting, what have been your favorite talk topics for Mother's Day? Ancient Romans and Greeks would celebrate Cybele / Rhea, the mother of the Gods with festivals in the spring time. I know some women get upset because they arent mothers, but it doesnt bother me. Yet, we have a tendency to go to extremes, particularly culturally, forgetting that we are worshiping God, and that we are not God nor expected to be God in this, our mortal state. There are sins that need confessing; It was a very honest list, but emphasized that the things she would change had nothing to do with looking good, acting a certain way, or different callings. I am on the Speakers Bureau for the Rape Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) and we would welcome the donations too. Alece, Nothing, wakes people up in sacrament meeting like talking about chimpanzees dismembering each other. Maybe the Hallmark channel should use some of his conference clips as fillers when movies end early. Over the years, Ive heard some very good Mothers Day talks, but I have also heard some that were cringe-worthy. Many times, it seems bishoprics want to put women on a pedestal for a day, while trying not to offend anyone. Why in the church is there such a strong, almost secular aversion to motherhood? It was both simple and profound. However, I am concerned about the implications of a people where the female population dislikes the concept of motherhood or at least dislikes it enough that they do not want to celebrate Mother's Day. The second is about a mother who diligently loved her son as he struggled with same-sex attraction and labored him through his despair. But alas, Mother's Day 11 years ago will forever be known as the day I landed face down on the floor of the chapel, on top of my 3-year-old, in the middle of sacrament meeting, with my skirt flung over my head. The Puritans werent big on celebrations, so they dropped it when they colonized Massachussetts. Mothers day will likely be about Gods unconditional love for us and how it pains Him to see us struggle And how even mothers cannot quite reach that level of love, but we understand the concept because most of us love our children in much the same way (but n, Focus your talk on how much we ALL need Jesus (even mothers) because we are all sinners (read the Bible It tells us so). Disciples of Christ know what they want and there is not need to celebrate Christmas in front of others that are not faithful. They may have services on Holy Mother Mary but then again, she left her son behind in Jerusalem and didnt even notice she had forgotten him for quite some time before going back to look for him so not sure about her mothering skills ;)). LDS Ministering Message Mother's Day Printable - Jonesing2Create So our ward did 3 talks on Christ with each one saying one sentence of gratitude about their individual moms right before bearing their testimony. I remember something I was told many years ago by a young man in Provo, UT. Many said not to assignmother or female focused messages in sacrament meeting, others said to keep your effortssimple as long as it is sincere. The hard part for me is when I hear talks about angel mothers where I actually know whom they are talking about. Mother's Day Sacrament Mtg - Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board For those who disagreed with my thoughts (above) about our needing ideals to aim at in our lives, I fell upon a quote from C.S. Well we could have it like the Sacrament Meetings for Father's Day and have it be your usual every Sunday meeting and not even talk about women or mothers. It is not a bad thing and it might be the one day that young mothers will remember and enjoy the most. April 24, 2016 in General Discussions. Make sure you understand where that line is. Well, I wont bore you with all the mediocre talks over the years, I will just tell you that the best song for MD from the primary children was Armies of Helaman. Ideals ALL! The good news is, most sisters want chocolate from their ward family and most sisters usually get chocolate. Drunk as he could be. My Mother will one day reach the godstage with my Father and will have there own planet. 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood, Church Leaders Honor Mothers Over the Holiday Weekend, Church Releases Tribute to Mothers, You Are Enough, FREE Happy Mothers Day Coloring Page Printable, The Family is a Divine Blessing | 6 March 2023, Come Follow Me Recap Thy Faith Hath Saved Thee | 5 March 2023, Miracles Come Through Fasting | 4 March 2023, Young Latter-day Saint Missionary Passes Away in Georgia, 5 Things You Didnt Know About the Day the LDS Church Was Organized. Also, try to remember that not all the women in the congregation are mothers - which may be because they can't be. The other auxiliaries are free to do something, its just the bishopric that doesnt. Even though Mothers Day is now a reasonably happy day for me personally, I still find that my mind is focused on how other women in my ward might be experiencing it. How about honoring our mothers by not just focusing on what they do or have done for us (guilt trip for those that feel they never do enough) but focus on ways the members can help their mothers throughout each stage of their life. Topical Guide, Assembly for Worship, Index to the Triple Combination, Assemble, Meetings in the Church, Handbook 2, 18, Speaking in Sacrament Meeting? youth.ChurchofJesusChrist.org, Is Sacrament Meeting a Top-of-the-Mountain Experience for You? 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Aiming for Heaven is again looking to the sinless for examples, not to an episode of Leave it to Beaver. It was an emotional rollercoaster of raised hopes and disappointments. I have attended other Christian churches enough to realize why it is much less likely that they have painful mothers day talks. It very gently re-addressed several of the points that were flying in the newspapers and throughout the church in the Mothers Who Know backlash. My own dear mother, long since gone to her reward, summed up the essence of the perfect Mothers Day talk quite nicely. To all of you giving talks, good luck on navigating the mine fields! Watch This Touching LDS Mother's Day Medley | LDS Daily Along with activities and programs during the week, Latter-day Saints gather on Sundays for an approximately hour-long "sacrament" meeting, where men, women and younger members offer prayers and give sermons, sing hymns and partake of the sacrament (similar to receiving communion). End of rant. Every year someone has to pick up the flowers for my ward. My husband told me to stop focusing on myself and think about who mothered me instead. But arent mothers also sweet, like cookies? Our HC speaker will be talking about forgiveness this Sunday at the special request of our Leadership. I am glad you had a good father, but honestly, that attitude is what keeps me away. (i.e. So how does tax exemption relate to churches, and especially churches that [], You are so much more than the worst thing youve everdone., http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2008/04/daughters-of-god?lang=eng, http://dandelionmama.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/this-this-is-what-i-believe/, Inside the UK's Mormon missionary bootcamp - BBC, Former mayor, LDS bishop gets prison for child sex abuse - Salt Lake Tribune, The anti-racist Mormon trying to teach his fellow LDS church members - NPR, Mormon Church fined over claim it hid $32bn of investments - BBC, Linda King Newell, Feminist Scholar of Mormon History, Dies at 82 - The New York Times. Ive lived in numerous family wards, and Ive never gotten as much as a crumb for Fathers Day, at least not from church. I think its good to have something to air at! We should not celebrate anything unless it is universally acknowledged around the world. Any suggestions as to what you would truly and realistically appreciate being presented? and read for the dayLOL, isnt that a nice dream?? And, invariably, as soon as I would send one on his way, Im not a mother, thank you, another would pop up at my elbow, dutifully, kindly twisting the knife. In partaking of the sacrament and making these commitments, Church members renew the covenant they made at baptism (see Mosiah 18:810; Doctrine and Covenants 20:37). Again, its about building testimony and gaining faith. I think this is one of the most confusing topics for men in the church. It spoke to the special importance of mothers to their children, but also made clear that as with other mistakes, the effects of mothers failings can absolutely be healed by the Atonement. The kids sang the first verse and the adults the second. Most detested thing, 3rd hour chatting and eating. I meant an ideal not an idea! A day focused on mothers is hard enough for many women, and much more so when thats all they hear about at church. When chocolate is handed out, our children end up begging for it but its the one day I wont share. Elder Perry uses personal stories and memories of his own mother to illustrate the importance of teaching the gospel inside the home. Gospel Q&A: My Children Have Left the Church & I Worry for Their Souls. Love your mother, my young sisters. Now, I detest it. I would say that my grandmother was like a second mother to us, but really she was like a first mother.